AMD Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G Review: Zen 4 APUs with RDNA3 Graphics
by Gavin Bonshor on January 29, 2024 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- APUs
- Phoenix
- 4nm
- Zen 4
- RDNA3
- AM5
- Ryzen 8000G
- Ryzen 7 8700G
- Ryzen 5 8600G
iGPU Gaming Performance: 720p And Lower
The reason we test games in CPU reviews at lower resolutions such as 720p and below is simple; titles are more likely to be CPU bound than they are GPU bound at lower resolutions. This means there are more frames for the processor to process as opposed to the graphics card doing the majority of the heavy lifting.
There are some variances where some games will still use graphical power, but not as much CPU grunt at these smaller resolutions, and this is where we can show where CPU limitations lie in terms of gaming.
We are using DDR5-5200 memory as per the JEDEC specifications on the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G, as well as DDR4-3200 on the Ryzen 7 5700G and Ryzen 5 5600G. The same methodology is also used for the AMD Ryzen 7000 series and Intel's 14th, 13th, and 12th Gen processors. Below are the settings we have used for each platform:
- DDR5-5200 CL44 - Ryzen 8000G
- DDR4-3200 CL22 - Ryzen 5000G
- DDR5-5600B CL46 - Intel 14th & 13th Gen
- DDR5-5200 CL44 - Ryzen 7000
- DDR5-4800 (B) CL40 - Intel 12th Gen
The bread and butter of AMD's Ryzen 8000G is in integrated graphics performance, with upgraded RDNA3-based mobile graphics used over AMD's aging Vegas graphics found within the Ryzen 5000G series. Depending on the title at 720p, we can see the combination of Zen 4, and RDNA3 proves much more effective at 720p than Zen 3 and Vega.
In Strange Brigade, we saw a massive 53% uplift in performance when comparing the Ryzen 7 8700G to the Ryzen 5 5700G, with the Ryzen 5 8600G also proving much more suited to gaming at 720p than any other processor with integrated graphics we've tested.
Regarding our retest with the latest firmware, we can see that both the Ryzen 7 8700G and Ryzen 5 8600G performance is marginally better at 720p. The issue with gaming benchmarks is that they typically don't represent sustained loads, and we expect these performance figures to be sustained over longer periods of time with STAPM limitations removed.
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TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link
Maybe take your meds Maxijazz if you feel so "threatened" LMAO.Right trash snowflakes get triggered so easily *sigh*
TesseractOrion - Saturday, February 3, 2024 - link
You do, since it's triggered your usual inane response LOLt.s - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
As stated on other review comments, you'll be better served with 7840hs mini-pc. Better priced, better idle, better upper-limit power, almost as good againts 8700G (if there's given headroom).FWhitTrampoline - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
There's no Processor upgrade path for the 7840HS as It's BGA and soldered to the MB! And there's 3rd party software for upping the TDP past 65W on the Mobile and Desktop Ryzen APUs!nandnandnand - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
You don't need the upgrade path. The path you need to take is just use the thing for a few years and retire it for lighter duty (e.g. HTPC) or give it to a poor kid when you're done.Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
Tell that to everyone who upgraded CPU's on AM4.meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
AM4 had a very long socket life. Long enough that AMD ran out of CPU numbers they could use in EEPROM with a single BIOS.AM5's life expectancy remains questionable.
meacupla - Tuesday, January 30, 2024 - link
8700G costs so much that it is a terrible choice to begin with.For the same price, you can get an i3-12100F with RX 6600, and it'll spit out more frames.
Thunder 57 - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
I wouldn't recommend a 4 core CPU these days.meacupla - Wednesday, January 31, 2024 - link
Yes, but if you are budget constrained and think the 8 core 8700G is good value, you would be sorely mistaken.