Noise and Heat
Here are the meat and potatoes of our comparison between the 11 Geforce 6600GT cards today. How quiet and efficient are the cooling solutions attached to the cards? We are about to find out.Our noise test was done using an SPL meter in a very quiet room. Unfortunately, we haven't yet been able baffle the walls with sound deadening material in the lab, and the CPU and PSU fans were still on as well. But in each case, the GPU fan was the loudest contributor to the SPL in the room by a large margin. Thus, the SPL of the GPU is the factor that drove the measured SPL of the system.
Our measurement was taken at 1 meter from the caseless computer. Please keep in mind when looking at this graph that everyone experiences sound and decibel levels a little bit differently. Generally, though, a one dB change in SPL translates to a perceivable change in volume. Somewhere between a 6 dB and 10 dB difference, people perceive the volume of a sound to double. That means the Inno3D fan is over twice as loud as the Galaxy fan. Two newcomers to our labs end up rounding out the top and bottom of our chart.
The very first thing to notice about our chart is that the top three spots are held by our custom round HSF solutions with no shroud. This is clearly the way to go for quiet cooling.
Chaintech, Palit, and Gigabyte are the quietest of the shrouded solutions, and going by our rule of thumb, the Palit and Gigabyte cards may be barely audibly louder than the Chaintech card.
The Albatron, Prolink, and XFX cards have no audible difference, and they are all very loud cards. The fact that the Sparkle card is a little over 1 dB down from the XFX card is a little surprising: they use the same cooling solution with a different sticker attached. Of course, you'll remember from the XFX page that it seems that they attached a copper plate and a pad to the bottom of the HSF. The fact that Sparkle's solution is more stable (while XFX has tighter pressure on the GPU from the springs) could mean the slight difference in sound here.
All of our 6600 GT solutions are fairly quiet. These fans are nothing like the ones on larger models, and the volume levels are nothing to be concerned about. Of course, the Inno3D fan did have a sort of whine to it that we could have done without. It wasn't shrill, but it was clearly a relatively higher pitch than the low drone of the other fans that we had listened to.
NVIDIA clocks its 6600 GT cores at 300 MHz when not in 3D mode, and since large sections of the chip are not in use, not much power is needed, and less heat is dissipated than if a game were running. But there is still work going on inside the silicon, and the fan is still spinning its heart out.
Running the coolest is the XFX card. That extra copper plate and tension must be doing something for it, and glancing down at the Sparkle card, perhaps we can see the full picture of why XFX decided to forgo the rubber nubs on their HSF.
The Leadtek and Galaxy cards come in second, pulling in well in two categories.
We have the feeling that the MSI and Prolink cards had their thermal tape or thermal glue seals broken at some point at the factory or during shipping. We know that the seal on the thermal glue on the Gigabyte card was broken, as this card introduced us to the problems with handling 6600 GT solutions that don't have good 4 corner support under the heatsink. We tried our best to reset it, but we don't think that these three numbers are representative of what the three companies can offer in terms of cooling. We will see similar numbers in the load temp graphs as well.
Our heat test consists of running a benchmark over and over and over again on the GPU until we hit a maximum temperature. There are quite a few factors that go into the way a GPU is going to heat up in response to software, and our goal in this test was to push maximum thermal load. Since we are looking at the same architecture, only the particular variance in GPU and the vendor's implementation of the product are factors in the temperature reading we get from the thermal diode. These readings should be directly comparable.
We evaluated Doom 3, Half-Life 2, 3dmark05, and UT2K4 as thermal test platforms. We selected resolutions that were not CPU bound but had to try very hard not to push memory bandwith beyond saturation. Looping demos in different levels and different resolutions with different settings while observing temperatures gave us a very good indication of the sweet spot for putting pressure on the GPU in these games, and the winner for the hardest hitting game in the thermal arena is: Half-Life 2.
The settings we used for our 6600 GT test were 1280x1024 with no AA and AF. The quality settings were cranked up. We looped our at_coast_12-rev7 demo until a stable maximum temperature was found.
We had trouble in the past observing the thermal diode temperature, but this time around, we setup multiple monitors. Our second monitor was running at 640x480x8@60 in order to minimize the framebuffer impact. We kept the driver open to the temperature panel on the second monitor while the game ran and observed the temperature fluctuations. We still really want an application from NVIDIA that can record these temperatures over time, as the part heats and cools very rapidly. This would also eliminate any impact from running a second display. Performance impact was minimal, so we don't believe temperature impact was large either. Of course, that's no excuse for not trying to do thing in the optimal way. All we want is an MBM5 plugin, is that too much to ask?
It is somewhat surprising that Galaxy is the leader in handling load temps. Of course, the fact that it was the lightest overclock of the bunch probably helped it a little bit, but most other cards were running up at about 68 degrees under load before we overclocked them. The XFX card, slipping down a few slots from the Idle clock numbers with its relatively low core overclock, combined with the fact that our core clock speed leader moves up to be the second coolest card in the bunch, makes this a very exciting graph.
For such a loud fan, we would have liked to see Inno3D cool the chip a little better under load, but their placement in the pack is still very respectable. The Sparkle card again shows that XFX had some reason behind their design change. The added copper bar really helped them even though they lost some stability.
The Gigabyte (despite my best efforts to repair my damage), MSI, and Prolink cards were all way too hot, even at stock speeds. I actually had to add a clamp and a rubber band to the MSI card to keep it from reaching over 110 degrees C at stock clocks. The problem was that the thermal tape on the RAM had come loose from the heatsink. Rather than having the heatsink stuck down to both banks of RAM as well as the two spring pegs, the heatsink was lifting off of the top of the GPU. We didn't notice this until we started testing because the HSF had pulled away less than a millimeter. The MSI design is great, and we wish that we could have had an undamaged board. MSI could keep this from happening if they put a spacer between the board and the HSF on the opposite side from the RAM near the PCIe connectors.
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geogecko - Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - link
Well, two e-mails later to XFX, without an answer to my questions, and now I see this PNY PCI-E card with dual dvi and hdtv out pod...guess who's going to get my money?Beatnik - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - link
Two links of interest:
http://www.xfxforce.com/pinetechnotes/Fan%20Update...
http://www.pny.com/products/verto/performance/6600...
Nice article folks!
Beatnik - Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - link
Seems pretty clear that a lot of people are waiting on their next upgrade, hence the continued heavy AGP interest. w.r.t. the XFX, it looks like they have a online store, and now have a pretty cool looking heatsink on the AGP card:
http://www.xfxforce.com/pinetechnotes/Fan%20Update...
The PNY 6600GT AGP product looks interesting also: http://www.pny.com/products/verto/performance/6600...
Might be the only DVI+DVI+component video out.
(Outstanding article guys!)
Rekonn - Monday, December 27, 2004 - link
I too would really like to see a roundup like this one done for 6600GT AGP cards.zoros - Sunday, December 26, 2004 - link
Anyone know how well PNY 6600GT is doing in there tests.. I have tried to find information everywhere, but with no sucess.. :-(geogecko - Monday, December 20, 2004 - link
I agree. PC's have started to move into the home theater more than ever now, and people (me included) are reading your articles to obtain knowledge when building home theater PC's. This information is not there, and thus still leaves me in the dark as to which video card to purchase for my HTPC.No word from XFX on their HDTV Output compatibility, so I must assume they don't support it, which stinks, considering they have the only card with dual DVI connectors, and a decent HSF design.
I realize this was a quick review, but video cards are now being required to have HD compatibility since so many people are interested in HTPC's these days. No one wants a DVR that forces advertising on them when they fast forward past commercials...so why not build a DVR that does more than TiVo intead...
How about an update with HDTV Output compatibility, along with who includes the cables?
nvdm24 - Sunday, December 19, 2004 - link
How much longer will us readers allow these ridiculous reviews to go on? Many of the readers of these tech sites want to know the FULL capabilities of these cards, not just how they run doom 3 and other 3d games. Sadly, reviewers at anandtech and every other tech site ignore the VIDEO capabilities of VIDEO cards. Even this review of the new 6600 agp ignores the video aspect of the 6600, despite the problems of the 6800, that weren't discovered by any reviewer, since none of them tested it for video. Not testing the video aspect does a HUGE disservice to readers. It's quite simple, just test a dvd movie and make sure the video aspect works and let readers know. If you feel particularly energetic, you could also test how fast it renders home movies, etc. You may think this is the job of a VIDEO site or PC site, but you are a PC site, a tech site. You would be surprised at the people who read your reviews. Others are going to start doing the job better, thus pull away readers if you don't get it together.ChineseDemocracyGNR - Friday, December 17, 2004 - link
Hi Derek,any word from the manufactures that had problems, are they sending you new cards?
I was reading some user reviews for the MSI 6600GT _AGP_ at gameve.com and it also has heating problems, which is disapointing. Do you plan a similar article on the 6600GT AGP cards?
1q3er5 - Friday, December 17, 2004 - link
ouch u got me good there :( im never posting again :o lolDerekWilson - Friday, December 17, 2004 - link
#54 We scored cards more on construction, cooling, and noise, rather than on overclockability. thus the Albatron didn't get an award.Also, the leadtek card you liked to is the AGP version. We tested PCI Express parts only. The heatsink you mention is not cooling RAM, but the HSI (PCIe to AGP bridge).