Final Words

We’ll limit the talk about the new batch of $500 cards to the first few lines of this conclusion. The Radeon 9800 XT offers a marginal performance improvement over the regular Radeon 9800 Pro, definitely not worth upgrading to for current 9800 Pro owners.

As far as people looking to upgrade once for the long run, with new architectures due out in 6 months, a $500 investment today would be significantly more out of date than if you purchase a card right before a refresh. We rarely recommend that you buy the fastest performing card on the market; in fact the last time we did that was with the Radeon 9700 Pro – the impact of which is clearly not equaled by the Radeon 9800 XT (nor were we expecting it to). Whether spending $500 is worth it today is your call, but you can definitely get very similar performance out of a used Radeon 9700 Pro or even a non-Pro Radeon 9800 at much better price points. If money is no object, then we’re sure that ATI wouldn’t mind shipping a few more XTs in your direction.

We’re quite wary of recommending any of the current NVIDIA cards at this point, for two major reasons. First, with NV38 coming right around the corner any FX 5900 Ultra purchases wouldn’t be wise investments. Also, given the marginal performance improvements you can expect out of a 5% core clock increase, don’t have incredibly high expectations for the NV38. We can’t recommend the GeForce FX 5600 Ultra because NVIDIA has already indicated that NV36 (the 5600 Ultra’s successor) will be here shortly to replace it and should offer significantly greater performance. So if you’re looking to buy a video card right now, ATI is the way to go.

Looking at the stats, ATI clearly wins in 6 games, NVIDIA wins in 4 games and the two come very close in 5 games. Games such as Command & Conquer Generals: Ground Zero and Simcity 4: Rush Hour are examples where ATI clearly has the lead over NVIDIA and the argument could be made that ATI holds the lead because they optimize for all games, while NVIDIA just optimizes for benchmark titles. However, looking at games like Homeworld 2 and Neverwinter Nights you could make the exact opposite argument.

What’s clear is that both manufacturers optimize for the more popular games and the focus of optimizations is obviously greater on more visible games. With that said, we’re hoping that by expanding our test suite we will be able to encourage optimizations to make more games run better. We’ll see how the picture we’ve depicted here today changes as time goes on.

Although we did provide some insight into the “next generation” of games with scores from Halo, the real question on everyone’s mind is still Half Life 2 as well as Doom3. The performance crown under Doom3 is still in NVIDIA’s camp apparently, and although the latest drivers have closed the gap significantly, ATI is still ahead in Half Life 2. The numbers we’ve seen indicate that in most tests ATI only holds single digit percentage leads (< 5%), although in some cases ATI manages to pull ahead by double digits.

There’s much more to come, but for now we’ve given you quite a bit to chew on…

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
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  • Pete - Friday, October 3, 2003 - link

    Why should they test at a higher res when the fastest cards have trouble breaking 60fps on most of these benchmarks?!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Who the hell is playing games at 1024 x 768 these days?!!! Go higher and see how all ATI cards kick butt!!!!!!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Anand is testing a card that is not out, with drivers that are not released (52.xx) , on a CPU that is not available ????

    At least he could benchmark DX9, wich is available.
    Tomb Raider AOD.

    Maybe not, because Nvidia sucks at DX9,
    Maybe Nvidia had a clause( you get to test our new card and new (cheat) drivers, but you can not use any DX9 titles ???

    We all know Nvidia sucks at DX9, but it should be included in the tests.
    We all know Nvidia is good at UT and Quake, but you still had those games to the Bench suit ???

    I have been reading Anand for years, this is the first time I have been really deceived.!

    It is amazing what MONEY will make you do or say..



  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    everyone can now rest peacefully not that bigshot has spoken! all hail the mighty bigshot and his useless rambling!!!

    we should all bow down to his infinite wisdom and wonderful use of childish phrases

  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    #197, you mean the 9500 Pro, and it's not a third of the price, it's currently two thirds and was never less than a half.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    I would've liked to see a Radeon 9500 and/or an OCSystems 9500 Radeon in the mix with these benchmarks. Even though the 9500 is discontinued it still performs on par with a 9700 card. Overclock it or flash new Bios onto it and it might perform right up with these cards; for a third of the price to.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    I'd like to see my testicles running 2xAA. I have no doubt in my mind that ATi is even beter than Nvidia's best! I've noticed the lag on my genitals when playing multiplayer games, such as BF1952 & TF2. I personally cannot wait for Dx9.
    How about that HL2 source code leak? I have a good feelin about it. :-)
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Sorry Bigshot here... I posted twice. I posted number #192 and number #193.

    I just wanted to say ATI Kicks NVida Butts!!!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Idiot!
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 2, 2003 - link

    Bigsot here again as I remembered what i forgot to say...

    The 2xAA of the ATI is even beter than nvidias best!

    ATI cards are the bestest!

    Nvidia card owners must be crying!

    Not me! Cause I got me an ATI!!!

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